Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states
"Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that Trump lost, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme."
Integral to the Jan 6 plan The scheme was integral to Trump's plan to get then-Vice President Mike Pence to throw out Biden's electors and replace them with the GOP electors on January 6 when Congress counted the electoral votes. It has also come under renewed scrutiny by the January 6 select committee and state attorneys general, raising questions about the involvement of Trump's campaign and whether any laws were broken.
Committee chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi told reporters Thursday the panel is looking into whether there was a broader conspiracy or involvement from the Trump White House in the creation or submission of these fake electors. "That's a concern" Thompson said. In its subpoena letter sent to Giuliani on Tuesday, the House committee specifically references his efforts to convince state legislatures to overturn election results.
The document cites Giuliani's comments from December 2020 in which he publicly urged lawmakers in Michigan to award the state's electoral votes to Trump. One of the pro-Trump electors from Pennsylvania, Sam DeMarco, told CNN there was a last-minute dispute, where the state's GOP electors pushed Trump campaign officials to add legal caveats to the fake certificate to say they were only electors-in-waiting, if Trump's legal challenges prevailed.
The fake documents from Pennsylvania and New Mexico ultimately contained these caveats, but the documents from the other five states explicitly claimed, falsely, that the pro-Trump electors were the rightful electors. It's not clear that any of the fake electors themselves participated in strategy sessions with top Trump campaign brass. But both Maddock from Michigan and DeMarco from Pennsylvania have said they were in direct contact with members of the Trump campaign. Many of the players involved in the scheme, including Maddock, stand by their actions and are still pushing the lie that the 2020 election was stolen. Giuliani, a Trump spokesperson and a representative from Stand Up Michigan did not respond to CNN's requests for comment.
Listen to Meshawn Maddock describe the Trump campaign's involvement in the fake elector plot at a recent speech in Michigan the full audio news here: https://youtu.be/wGSI9O_zE1M
I don't understand how this isn't an attempted coup. They had a plot to overthrow the results of a legitimate election and even started carrying out that plot by selecting illegitimate electors.
Presumably, if Mike Pence had gone along with it, the illegitimate electors would been seated, voted and he would have supported the illegitimate results. After that, everything is completely FUBAR. The courts would get involved and, if it's not sorted out, who knows what happens on January 20th. Maybe things eventually get sorted out and Biden becomes president anyway, but not before our democracy's legitimacy is shredded.
But, I guess we're just going to let this go because I guess it would be too "divisive" to punish politicians who plot to overthrow the US government. So, now the next ambitious fellow (or the same ones) can plot their overthrow knowing if he succeeds, he wins, and if he fails, nothing much happens.
There was also:
- Trump and Giuliani's extortion plot with Ukraine to manufacture dirt on Biden in exchange for releasing the $400 million in military aid that Trump had blocked.
- Giuliani somehow getting his hands on Hunter Biden's emails from a small-town computer repair shop guy whose cover story fell apart under light questioning. Most likely Giuliani got the emails from this guy.
- Trump's attempt to invoke the insurrection act on June 2, 2020 to deploy the US military against peaceful protesters in Lafayette Square.
- The "Durham Report" scam.
And those are just some of the ones we know about.
From Trump to Giuliani to everyone in between:
CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
18 U.S.C. § 371 provides that: If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
"Rudy Giuliani and other Trump campaign officials were involved in overseeing efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors in seven states, according to US media reports.
The news comes just days after the House select committee investigating the 6 January Capitol riot issued a subpoena to Mr Giuliani."
Rudy was responsible for a lot of decisions that made 9/11 worse.
He was the one who decreed that the NYC Emergency Management Office would be in the World Trade Center, even though a site in the Bronx was determined to be more secure and less likely to be a target of an attack. The NYPD and many others protested the choice since you don't want a terrorism response center placed inside a likely target (much less a target which had already been bombed once before).
So why was it there? Because Rudy wanted it to be within walking distance of his offices. And Rudy's Mistress (Judith Nathan) had been barred from the Mayor's Residence.
He was the one who oversaw a no-bid contract to replace first responders' radios. These radios were deemed to be faulty early in 2001, forcing first responders to use decades old analog radios with incompatible frequencies and shorter ranges. The 9/11 Commission determined that these radios were the reason many first responders never got an evacuation call and were killed in the WTC collapse. Replacing those radios was a low priority for Guiliani, because not only were they not replaced the same year, they weren't replaced for several years after the the 9/11 Commission released their report.
Instead of allowing FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers, or OSHA to manage recovery efforts he put the relatively unknown NYC Department of Design and Construction in charge and made the feds go through there.
When it was discovered that toxic chemicals from the WTC (like asbestos) were spread over a much larger area than initially estimated, instead of sending in the EPA to affect cleanup Guiliani instead left it up to individual building managers to handle it.
When the EPA tried to make sure everyone at Ground Zero was wearing respirators Guiliani interfered with those efforts. This lead to many workers developing lung diseases.
Members of FDNY believe Guiliani prioritized the recovery of precious metals from the World Trade Center site, over the recovery of bodies, leaving victims and first responders to either be buried forever or dug up and disposed of as refuse during construction.
"America's Mayor" was all just PR smoke and mirrors.
During the 1992 White Riot of New York, Guiliani led a large group of Drunk off duty police officers to remove the first Black Mayor of New York, David Dinkins. Many of the off duty officers stormed the City hall building , blocking councilmembers and city personnel from entering.
FAST FORWARD TO 2022.....
The House committee specifically references Guiliani efforts to convince state legislatures to overturn election results. The document cites Giuliani's comments from December 2020 in which he publicly urged lawmakers in Michigan to award the state's electoral votes to Trump.
Not mention about Trump's and Giuliani's ties with opioid crisis.
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